I tried talking about how much money they got at the assemblies etc. to a witness. Also if the kingdom halls were sold even tho the congregation had used their money to buy it. They just shrugged their shoulders and said "It's all Jehovahs money anyway" They trust the GB is honest and would never "steal" from God. I know I believed that for most of my life.
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The property money: confront them with it
by Gorbatchov indear friends,.
with all the jevanka story's at the moment, i got this morning the bad perception that jw.org is playing nice guy with al this maffia money that they got selling their property in brooklyn.. money earned by the buyers with bad deals, political tricks and maffia connected asshole's.. this money is funding all the nice multimedia at conventions and broadcasting.. maybe a nice topic to discuss at the jw chart at the streets on our towns.. follow the money.
it's all about money.. confronting them with this dirty money laundry is a strong argument.. what do you think about this???.
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Priming the Pump
by days of future passed inthe definition of priming the pump, is put to water manually into the casing of the pump so that it will create a seal and draw the water up.
it's a term used for economics but i like to use it when i am trying to hopefully help a jw, escape.
i view it as a long term endeavor.. whenever there are videos for upcoming conventions, i'll try to work the main theme into a conversation with them.
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stillin - yes that is exactly what I'm going for. Maybe it means she will give less money and be more critical of the begging for money.
neat blue dog - I agree. If you can help just a little for one person, it might spread to others too. In the long run, who knows what might it accomplish?
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Priming the Pump
by days of future passed inthe definition of priming the pump, is put to water manually into the casing of the pump so that it will create a seal and draw the water up.
it's a term used for economics but i like to use it when i am trying to hopefully help a jw, escape.
i view it as a long term endeavor.. whenever there are videos for upcoming conventions, i'll try to work the main theme into a conversation with them.
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Nothing for me. If they really aren't interested in escaping, then nothing I say will help them. I just feel for them as people.
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A spy's life is a lonely one
by LevelThePlayingField inso i have been awake since about this time in 2013, so about 5 years.
and the craziest thing about it is that now, no one, and i mean no one know's i am an apostate.
meaning, that i don't believe the jw minds set/beliefs at all, and no one knows it.
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I probably would have looked like a zombie too, but that is because I kept my thoughts to myself. Some go out with a bang! over a big issue, but many just collect (like me) pieces of the puzzle that doesn't make sense. Then one day, the last piece falls in and you leave.
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Priming the Pump
by days of future passed inthe definition of priming the pump, is put to water manually into the casing of the pump so that it will create a seal and draw the water up.
it's a term used for economics but i like to use it when i am trying to hopefully help a jw, escape.
i view it as a long term endeavor.. whenever there are videos for upcoming conventions, i'll try to work the main theme into a conversation with them.
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The definition of priming the pump, is put to water manually into the casing of the pump so that it will create a seal and draw the water up. It's a term used for economics but I like to use it when I am trying to hopefully help a JW, escape. I view it as a long term endeavor.
Whenever there are videos for upcoming conventions, I'll try to work the main theme into a conversation with them. Since they haven't seen the videos, they don't know that I'm "priming the pump" by putting a realistic spin on the info in them. So that when they do see the vids, there might be a hmmm? moment.
The WT does this themselves. All the questions and accusations that sincere JW's (and ex JW's) send or phone into them, are examined. Are ex Jw's convincing the still in's that there is something wrong and it bothered their conscience? An article comes out telling all the regular JW's that following their own conscience is bad, you can't trust it but you can trust the GB's conscience. So the WT effectively strikes first, priming the JW mind to reject a reasonable argument.
So I decided that one stone after the other, can make a bridge. And if I can strike first by using the vids that people leak here, I will.
Has anyone else tried this?
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A spy's life is a lonely one
by LevelThePlayingField inso i have been awake since about this time in 2013, so about 5 years.
and the craziest thing about it is that now, no one, and i mean no one know's i am an apostate.
meaning, that i don't believe the jw minds set/beliefs at all, and no one knows it.
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As a spy, incognito, do you attempt to give out info that may help someone to view the "truth" differently?
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Please explain!
by Freedom rocks inhi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.
it doesn't make sense to me.
bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.
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Since Jerusalem didn't fall in 607ce as per secular historians, those calculations don't mean anything. In fact, when I was looking for proof one way or the other about the WT, I found that the Revelation book and the Daniel's prophesy book, contradicted one another on what 3 1/2 times really meant. It's hilarious, you should read it yourself.
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The laziness of JW parents....
by stuckinarut2 init struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?
ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?
ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!
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My mom was even lazier than that. Taking us to the meetings was enough.
Oh and there wasn't a Godly cartoon in sight at that time. Nope, just the WT and talks to instruct us. After coming back from the meeting, nothing at all was spoken about God etc cause sitting at the meetings took care of it.
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Everything I once knew as a JW, is now wrong.
by fulltimestudent injust had 2 nice witnesses at the door.
without boring you with all the to-ing and fro-ing.
i invented a friend who became a witness back in the early 1950s, this friend tried to get me to become a witness, because his teachers father (a leader in that congregation) told him that the big a was coming in 5 years (which was true).
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It was a "God" send that WW1 happened and it got fit into the 1914 scenario. That was always a big point for me so I understand why most JW's would have a hard time letting that go.
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2018 Regional Convention program available on JW.borg
by sir82 inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2018/.
friday.
be courageous and very strong”—joshua 1:7
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I now see conventions as opportunities for the org to counter things that affect it negatively. I can imagine org higher-ups, being aware of "apostate" opposition, looking for ways to incorporate into convention parts material countering opposition activities and arguments. Magnum
Yeah, gone are the days of scripture proving doctrines.
My take on this convention - the WT has noticed trends that worry them.
Friday
- Enthusiasm for preaching, being moral and staying out of politics is definitely lacking.
- JW's are feeling despair, are becoming unhappy with the changes so they are complaining, are tired and missing field service to have fun (or maybe they aren't tired and don't care about FS) are finding better mates/friends in the world and the internet is wising some people up about the WT.
friday afternoon
- Serious lack of sacrificing everything for the WT.
Saturday
- Everyone in the congregation - new bible students to the "pillars" of the congregation, the elders - are finding it hard to peddle the word of god.
- The majority are lacking motivation
Sat. afternoon
- They use cute animal stories and cute fairytale stories from far away places to encourage them to do more - but really it's to make them feel guilty for not doing enough
- P.S. Don't confuse courage with thinking for yourself.
Sunday
- It's necessary to address the old that are in despair over Armageddon being farther away and the new ones who hope they will walk into Armageddon.
- You old timers - you get the consolation prize of the resurrection
- You new ones - you get the same story told to the old timers when they were young. Armageddon is just ahead!